Well my AOD-E shit the bed tonight on a run, and im really up in the air as to what trans to do. I was looking at the Lentech AODE, or the possibility of a built C4. You guys have any suggestions, im really on the fence and am looking for some input, and would love to hear about some of the setups you have/have hand and like/dislike. Im also considering rebuilding my AODE...again, but need a decent shop that knows what they are doing. Thanks in advance for the help!
Trans Suggestions..
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it all depends on what you want in the end. a c4 with give you better times and if built right will last a long time and take alot of power but on the down side if you have gears over 3.73 you might not be happy with cruising it around. rebuilding the aod-e is a good option for street cars as you will have that extra gear for cruising and depending on the power you have the aod-e can hold up when the right parts are used. either way i dont think it will be much of a price difference due to the fact that youll have to buy all the parts to make the c4 work like converter and such but you already have the aod-e so its just a build up, but i havent priced the parts on an aod-e in a while. if you want i can give you a price on a build up of your aod-e, but id need to talk to you about your setup.
Well its a 331 car with spray, and i do a decent ammount of cruising with it, but its more a weekend driver. The bad part is i have 4.10 gears, and with my 28" tall tire im out of gear at about the 1000'. So im definately gonna need to drop the gear to a 3.73, or maybe a 3.55. I was leaning towards the C4, but i forget whats needed for the swap. Thanks again guys
im in the same boat as you...im pretty sure im going with the stage two AOD from www.ckperformance.com its rared to 850ftlbs of torque 3500 stall...so you might not need that much. but i drive the car on the street to much for a c4. the trans is 2900 so its not that much more then most built c4s and i figure ill save the differance in gas money.
if u only drive it a few miles on the weekend to like a hang out spot or car show then go with no OD,if u drive it more & wanna cruise around alittle then go with OD,u will enjoy it more w/OD if u drive it more,& could always drive it to the track & drive home if u wanted & was close enuff, just my thoughts...good luck
check out redneck performance. It's an ebay company. A c4 built to hold around 900 hp w/ full manual valve body, transbrake, and a custom converter they will stall to wherever you want is $1200. It comes with a 6 month warranty.
As far as what's needed for the swap... I would imagine a new convertor, possibly a different length driveshaft... I dont know the length of either transmission. I'm not sure but possibly a different shifter? depends on what you have. Especially if you go with a manual valve body.
If you plan on driving this car to the track, or to some car show an hour away... go with an aod-e. If you just do regular street driving and little highway driving a c4 will be fine.
I dont know the gears in a c4 compared to a gm t-350 but 4.10 gears and like 26 inch tall tires is about 3k @ 50mph.
As far as what's needed for the swap... I would imagine a new convertor, possibly a different length driveshaft... I dont know the length of either transmission. I'm not sure but possibly a different shifter? depends on what you have. Especially if you go with a manual valve body.
If you plan on driving this car to the track, or to some car show an hour away... go with an aod-e. If you just do regular street driving and little highway driving a c4 will be fine.
I dont know the gears in a c4 compared to a gm t-350 but 4.10 gears and like 26 inch tall tires is about 3k @ 50mph.
i'm in the process of putting in a C-4 in my car, well it's in and i'm finishing buttoning things up like speedo and back up lights but it was pretty much a straight forward swap. i have a Dynamic Mitey mite c-4 with a brake, JW ultra bell, and TCT 4200 stall convertor,and a Hurst pistol grip shifter.i can't wait to get the car done and see how i like it.but this set up wasn't very cheap. but it should hold up well and last awhile. fingers crossed.if you want to come and check it out to see what involved with it let me know.
OK, heres the basic order of performance auto trans in mustangs, it goes AOD-E , C4 , powerglide/400 . the aod-e can be made to handle power but they're not as reliable in my opinion as a c4 and they take more power to run, the c4 will handle anything up to the 8's with the right parts but at that level they require checks and freshen ups, the glide and 400 are both top dogs that can handle whatever you got.
In your case you're really fighting 2 battles, if you go c4 you will most likely be happier with a gear change to 3.55-3.73 so you have to factor that possibility in, if you keep the aode then you can keep your gears and you shouldn't run out of gear unless your shift points are a bit low but you should be around 5800 rpm shifts. If you want to keep the aode then a rebuild with a shift kit by a local trans shop would be the equivalent of taking it to the top of a building and tossing it of the side and the same goes for any trans you want to race with. So , whatever you go with be sure its gonna be built right by someone who knows these cars and what the intended use and power its gotta handle.
In your case you're really fighting 2 battles, if you go c4 you will most likely be happier with a gear change to 3.55-3.73 so you have to factor that possibility in, if you keep the aode then you can keep your gears and you shouldn't run out of gear unless your shift points are a bit low but you should be around 5800 rpm shifts. If you want to keep the aode then a rebuild with a shift kit by a local trans shop would be the equivalent of taking it to the top of a building and tossing it of the side and the same goes for any trans you want to race with. So , whatever you go with be sure its gonna be built right by someone who knows these cars and what the intended use and power its gotta handle.
Alot of good info here. Im running a 6K RPM limiter right now, but it will be bumped up to 6500+ in the near future, also running 28" tires. I need to change the gear bad, as im out of it before the 1/4.
Vorstang, i may take ya up on that. What did you do to fix the backup lights and speedo? My speedo doesnt work now anyways, but id like to have the backup lights work.
Vorstang, i may take ya up on that. What did you do to fix the backup lights and speedo? My speedo doesnt work now anyways, but id like to have the backup lights work.
Just another suggestion here.. I bought my Powerglide from ATi and these guys are straight up PROVEN to build kick ass trannies and convertors!! A lil pricey but well worth it in the long run..
http://www.atiracing.com/products/trans/c4/index.htm
C4 = Much fun out of the hole
http://www.atiracing.com/products/trans/c4/index.htm
C4 = Much fun out of the hole
your limiter should be at 7000 rpm so you can bump your shifts up to 6200 if you need to. you dont want to be in overdrive, the aode cant handle power in overdrive, none can. the ratio's from a aode to c4 are the same so if youre doing a gear change then id go with a c4, without the od youll be around 2500 to 3000 most of the time with 3.73's unless youre just around town. The cheapest i can get an aode out the door for is about 2700$ , a c4 setup will be close to the same, if youre close to vorstang id go check his out and maybe go for a ride in it to see how it will be.
Id say stick with an AODE..Unless you are making it an all out track car (which it doesnt appear to be), in the end youll be happier with it. Lentech is the way to go. You need to look at what youll be gaining or losing by going with non OD transmission. I see to many peopel make hasty decisions and not be happy in the end.