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[TheWhiteFox]

okay, here is the deal, if that has a factory balancer on it its two piece even though it looks like one and sometimes the rubber/elastic type thingy between the two wears or dry rots, even if this happened the piece the pulley bolts to on the balancer is the piece that bolts to the crank, so if the balancer to crank bolt and crank pulley bolts are tight the key way or crank is FUC^ED so when you say you can spin the pulley by hand do you mean the outer piece of the balancer?? or the actual crank pulley?

 

[Jthavok21]

If anyone wants it i took a avi file of the problem to show you all a little better if anyone wants to see it just let me know and i'll figure out a way to send it or show it

 

[toomanytoys]

First of all, the oil pan gasket has nothing to do with your pressure as was said. Second, if you can move the pulley with your hand then either a. the balancer is broken b. the keyway on the crank is wiped, or c. the snout of the crank snapped off (which might explain your lack of oil pressure).

Send me a video and I will try to see what the problem is.
my e-mail is undrprsrv6@aol.com

 

[TERROR]

A bad oil pan gasket will effect the oil pressure when the damn oil is leaking out of the seal, i saw a trail of oil about a foot wide on the wet road all the way from my fathers corner the three houses down to my driveway and ine out.

if you say so..... no oil pressure and running out of oil are two completley different things. did you pull off the crank pulley and balancer yet?

 

[GT40Mustang]

:smash:

 

[Jthavok21]

Ok I have officially pulled the Radiator, and fan, and all that happy horse malarky, and have a better video at [ame="http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=64451563"]Mustang Problem 2 Video by HaVoK21 - MySpace Video@@AMEPARAM@@http://mediaservices.myspace.com/services/media/embed.aspx/m=64451563@@AMEPARAM@@mediaservices@@AMEPARAM@@myspace@@AMEPARAM@@services/media/embed@@AMEPARAM@@aspx/m@@AMEPARAM@@64451563[/ame]

 

[363Coupe]

there isn't anying loose about that. Why don't you remove the ballencer and inspect the crank.

 

[Jthavok21]

If the crank was messed the engine wouldn't run would it, i don't know, it runs allright, just shakes alot and that pully is bunk, but i'll do that when i get the pully off.

 

[363Coupe]

If the crank was messed the engine wouldn't run would it, i don't know, it runs allright, just shakes alot and that pully is bunk, but i'll do that when i get the pully off.

What is the pulley bolted to? when you shake the pully the BALLENCER moves with pulley. Two things a) you wiped out the end of the crank, and or b) what we may no see is that the ballencer is now in two.

From the looks of that vid you wiped out the end of the crank! Which means your pucked..... And the car will run with or with a ballencer, how long is the question.

 

[Jthavok21]

Thanks i'll keep the vids coming as i do the work, i'm new to V8s and stuff so any help would be great, sorry i dont mean to sound weird.

 

[EHA Racing]

The pulley does not go bad. Take the pulley off the balancer, the take the balncer bolt off and take the balancer off the crank. I'm going to bet the end of the crank is fucked due to the damage to the balancer. Also, you most likely lost oil pressure due to the fact the that the engine was driven with it so bad out of balance. That will most likely wipe out the front 2 crank bearings and cause no oil pressue. You can only loose so much oil due to a pan gasket being bad. The oil pump sucks the oil from the bottom of the pan. If you have no oil pressure and the bearings are wiped you might want to start looking for a new engine. when stuff like that happens and you keep running the engine sooner or later the thing is goint to ea itself up from the inside.

 

[Jthavok21]

Not what i wanted to hear, I cant afford a new engine, But thanks i'll take that into consideration when i pull the balancer, Thanks, i'll keep more vids posted as i work. also is there a way to find out which tranny i have in it, so if i do get an engine i can match it to the transmission. unless they sell tranny conversions or unless they all bolt up regardless.

 

[TheWhiteFox]

Ok I have officially pulled the Radiator, and fan, and all that happy horse malarky, and have a better video at Mustang Problem 2 Video by HaVoK21 - MySpace Video

OH DEAR GOD can't be good does look like the end of the crank is fuc*^d i wish you luck like they said pull the balancer and look at the crank

 

[EHA Racing]

Not what i wanted to hear, I cant afford a new engine, But thanks i'll take that into consideration when i pull the balancer, Thanks, i'll keep more vids posted as i work. also is there a way to find out which tranny i have in it, so if i do get an engine i can match it to the transmission. unless they sell tranny conversions or unless they all bolt up regardless.

Your transmission will bolt to any 302, 351 Windsor or 351 Cleveland.

 

[toomanytoys]

Looking at that second video I would say the crank is junk. If so you may get away with just replacing it. As for the car running, it will run witout a balancer at idle just fine but as the rpms go up so do the harmonic vibrations and then you get boom... How are you reading oil pressure? Stock or aftermarket guage? Electric or mechanical?

 

[Jthavok21]

its an aftermarket guage that has a line running to the engine so i guess mechanical, the oil was running out of the front of the engine when the balancer went, i thought it was the oil pan gasket but i guess i was wrong

 

[Jthavok21]

Well here are the official pics of the fucked balancer, thats all it is is the balancer, now the front main seal too but, i am so damn happy that it's only the balancer

 

[toomanytoys]

Try to get some better pics of the crank please. And take the bolt off first.

 

[EHA Racing]

I hate to say it man but the snout of that crank looks pretty screwed. The balancer is a pressed on piece and I doubt you'll be able to keep one on very long!! Also, I would imagine that there is a ton of metal pieces on the oil pan.