Have some procharger Questions

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StangAddict

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I'm new at this so please be kind

I installed a d1-SC with a 3 core intercooler and a 4 inch pulley In my 99 gt , A few problems maybe someone can help with. I know the surge blowoff valve is suppose to go to manifold vacuum but I'm not sure where to pick it up from. Also how do i adjust the vortec Surge valve to dump with little pressure so I can run the car? or am I wrong?

I have the new 90 mm mass air in the wheel well and the injectors are still stock until this week. I bought 42 lbs and they are on the way. But can I just start the car and Idol to see the belts run up? I tried to just run idol and it just starts and dies after 3 seconds running.Shouldent the car at least run?

Also I had to look into the stock air pipe for the inlet I cant get the two pipes into the wheel well anyone ever deal with this?
 
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Hey man, For the bypass valve, tap into the line that goes to the FRPS. (Fuel rail pressure sensor) I don't know what you mean by "adjust the vortec Surge valve to dump with little pressure" I am assuming your not using the Procharger Bypass Valve. As for the car running, No it most likely will not. It might when you put the injectors in if the MAF you have is the Lightning MAF. Even that though, it might not run and will most likely limit your HP with a D1. You will most likely Peg that meter unless you get a Diablo Mafia to go with the tune you will need. What are you running for your fuel pump? Just curious. As for the pipes going into the fender, No they will not both fit, You have to cut the hole open larger. I am assuming you purchased this kit used. It usually comes with a decent instruction manual for these procedures, and it would supply you with a chip to get your car running. I also live in suffolk. I think we met at Captree and IHOP that day. Any way, PM me if you need help. I do not live far. Lata.
 
Kylejb2663

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StangAddict said:
I'm new at this so please be kind

I installed a d1-SC with a 3 core intercooler and a 4 inch pulley In my 99 gt , A few problems maybe someone can help with. I know the surge blowoff valve is suppose to go to manifold vacuum but I'm not sure where to pick it up from. Also how do i adjust the vortec Surge valve to dump with little pressure so I can run the car? or am I wrong?

I have the new 90 mm mass air in the wheel well and the injectors are still stock until this week. I bought 42 lbs and they are on the way. But can I just start the car and Idol to see the belts run up? I tried to just run idol and it just starts and dies after 3 seconds running.Shouldent the car at least run?

Also I had to look into the stock air pipe for the inlet I cant get the two pipes into the wheel well anyone ever deal with this?
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Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the surge blow off valve is supposed to return air back into the intake (It's usually recycled when blown off) before the supercharger not into a vacuum line- I would think that it could cause some problems if you had it going into a vacuum line. You normally tap a vacuum line for your boost/vacuum pressure not to dump the blowoff into it.

Also, your car will not run at all until you have tuned it correctly or loaded a base tune from ProCharger.. Did you buy a tuning kit or a complete system kit from them? Usually the complete system kit comes with the injectors along with a base tune to get you running and see the HP numbers they are estimating. It also comes with an upgraded fuel pump- which I am estimating you will need...
 
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Kylejb2663 said:
Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the surge blow off valve is supposed to return air back into the intake (It's usually recycled when blown off) before the supercharger not into a vacuum line- I would think that it could cause some problems if you had it going into a vacuum line. You normally tap a vacuum line for your boost/vacuum pressure not to dump the blowoff into it.

Also, your car will not run at all until you have tuned it correctly or loaded a base tune from ProCharger.. Did you buy a tuning kit or a complete system kit from them? Usually the complete system kit comes with the injectors along with a base tune to get you running and see the HP numbers they are estimating. It also comes with an upgraded fuel pump- which I am estimating you will need...
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Mustang Magic will be doing the tune so I would only need a tune to get me running enough to get it down to them. If i have to drop a procharger tune and it cost me more ,That would suck. I may tow it or find a base tune someone can help me just get it down to them.

The way the surge blow off valve worked when I received the kit was that the blowoff was just going out to ambient air, I set it back up that way. If its wrong I will have to fix it. It wont be too hard to do.

Oh and all the fuel stuff will be here this week and I will get my tune by next I hope! 42 lbs Injectors And walbro pump 255.

Thanks for the comments!
 
Kylejb2663

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StangAddict said:
Mustang Magic will be doing the tune so I would only need a tune to get me running enough to get it down to them. If i have to drop a procharger tune and it cost me more ,That would suck. I may tow it or find a base tune someone can help me just get it down to them.

The way the surge blow off valve worked when I received the kit was that the blowoff was just going out to ambient air, I set it back up that way. If its wrong I will have to fix it. It wont be too hard to do.

Oh and all the fuel stuff will be here this week and I will get my tune by next I hope! 42 lbs Injectors And walbro pump 255.

Thanks for the comments!
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Awesome! I may be able to get my hands on a base tune for that- Let me check around and see... Do you already have an SCT handheld Tuner to upload the tune to it?
 
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Kylejb2663 said:
Awesome! I may be able to get my hands on a base tune for that- Let me check around and see... Do you already have an SCT handheld Tuner to upload the tune to it?
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No I dont , Is it worth buying? The tune from Mustang Magic should be all I need the tune would of just got me running.
 
Kylejb2663

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You will still need a SCT Tuner in order to get the tune from Mustang Magic- Since your car is not chipped and it's a 1999.

Give Joe a call at MM and he can explain it to you better! Let him know Kyle sent you from NYM.
 
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Mustang Magic is out for the week, after I get the fuel system in I will then figure out what to do.I guess I need to spend out more money to get a tuner to get a tune? Why wouldent I just get a tuner and have someone give me a tune that works?
 
Kylejb2663

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^^Exactly TBapp!

and plus since you bought the supercharger used I take it.... the person you bought it from should have had a base tune unless they bought a tuner kit... which means that Joe will need to give you a Custom Dyno Tune and also a SCT Tuner to upload it to the ECM.
 
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First off thanks for all of the help. Its really helping me out.:awesomework:

I have some photos to show my air intake (comments welcome Remember I did what I had to do to not cut the well) Any ideas?

I think that the hot airs not a good idea but I tried to get it over to the wheel well and no luck everything I tried failed.I really think the plastic procharger pipe will have to be ordered and Im not sure if that will work.
 

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Sounds like you have a Vortech mondo bypass? Any pics of it? Do you have a programmer or chip now or that came with the kit? I've never seen an inlet go backwards like that is it custom? Usually they into the fenderwell.
 
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dsblk93gt said:
Sounds like you have a Vortech mondo bypass? Any pics of it? Do you have a programmer or chip now or that came with the kit? I've never seen an inlet go backwards like that is it custom? Usually they into the fenderwell.
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I have the rest of the pipes for the intake , I need ideas to fix this . I guess you can say its temporary. I don't want to cut the well. Need some ideas.

Ill get pictures of the bypass
 
dsblk93gt

dsblk93gt

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Sell the powerpipe and get a standard inlet, Scott might swap with you or something. I would not run it like that.

The bypass does not need to recirculate since it is a blow thru setup, maf is not before the SC it is after...
 
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dsblk93gt said:
Sell the powerpipe and get a standard inlet, Scott might swap with you or something. I would not run it like that.

The bypass does not need to recirculate since it is a blow thru setup, maf is not before the SC it is after...
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Yes, I agree with you on the pipe I wont sell for now but I will get the plastic procharger pipe asap. I just wanted to get ideas

Thanks for the input
 
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StangAddict

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42 lbs Injectors came in tonight and they are in the car already , now tomorrow I hope the new air pipe and fuel pump come. Quick install and then off to mustang magic! :D
 
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