Cam shaft help!

[Race_Red_5Oh]

http://www.americanmuscle.com/mustang-comp-cams-xe270ah.html

who can help me with putting these in???? or do i need to bring it somewhere to get ass raped for labor charges? i think we could do it at my house or i can come to u. i have a lift in my garage. with a shit-ton of tools....besides a plasma cutter , and what else would i need to put these in? a chip? injectors? ...not really sure what to do, but this is gonna be my next project for my car, and all thanks to mike riddle getting his in.... car sounds soooo good i need to get this doneeeeee. any help welcome

 

[ShelbyGT]

you may want to research other cam options. look at www.modularheadshop.com. read some of his info about popular big name company cams for modular motors. you'll be shocked at what you find.

 

[ford20]

If your gonna be putting in cams your probably gonna need new springs and rocker arms to compensate for the new lift that you are getting. I know with some cams you need to do new springs and others you don't ... You might want to look around since the cams from Mikes car might not sound the same on yours.

 

[Race_Red_5Oh]

I'm not buying or using the cams mike bought. I jus think the way his car sounds from getting his cams done sounds sick lol I want my car to have the sound of the older pushrod motors

 

[ShelbyGT]

If your gonna be putting in cams your probably gonna need new springs and rocker arms to compensate for the new lift that you are getting. I know with some cams you need to do new springs and others you don't ... You might want to look around since the cams from Mikes car might not sound the same on yours.

not to sound like an ass, but not true. the modular ford stock rockers are a very sturdy design and are good to over 7500 rpm and the stock 2v springs are plenty for 6500 which is just fine because the stock 2v bottom end isn't good for much past that either

 

[ford20]

No thats fine man, Im a noob and I heard that with the S197 engines I forget which cams it was he had to get new springs also. But Im just here to learn so correct me if im wrong man.

Edit: Sorry didnt say that correctly lol ... I think with a certain cam it has an aggressive grind to it which is why they needed to new springs

 

[needforspeed]

http://www.americanmuscle.com/mustang-comp-cams-xe270ah.html

who can help me with putting these in???? or do i need to bring it somewhere to get ass raped for labor charges? i think we could do it at my house or i can come to u. i have a lift in my garage. with a shit-ton of tools....besides a plasma cutter , and what else would i need to put these in? a chip? injectors? ...not really sure what to do, but this is gonna be my next project for my car, and all thanks to mike riddle getting his in.... car sounds soooo good i need to get this doneeeeee. any help welcome

With comp cams you need the phase limiters and springs - I did the FRPP hot rod cams which did not need them

 

[ShelbyGT]

cool man, some people get so torqued over being corrected. pretty much what i've found is that if you need to change the springs for the cams then the cams rpm range is too high for the stock bottom end anyhow. i mean, it will live, for a while, but eventually all the rpm will hurt it

 

[ShelbyGT]

plus keep in mind his is a 2v car, they are a little different that the 3v motors. no cam phasers to worry about

 

[ford20]

Yeah idc really I just wanna learn as much as I can lol ... If im wrong then Im wrong, its no big deal.

 

[TBapp3]

All right this is a topic Iv been looking into also... So Brian you only did the cam swap itself, know other parts needed!?!!?

Also well on this topic... doing NA cams but not trying to do anything else to the engine like heads or any thing how much of a power gain can be expected????

 

[ford20]

Yeah I think we are all interested in doing Cams. I know its something on my list for my car as well as heads.

I would think that heads would be a complimentory thing to do to get the most out of your new cams ... :idk: though

 

[ShelbyGT]

i did cams, valve seals, timing chain guides and timing gears and a new (mail order) tune. the car would hardly run with the new cams and old tune so you def need at least a mail order tune to get you started. you don't really need to do heads at the same time to see good gains, althought it would be nice but pretty expensive and not to mention very labor intensive. getting the heads off a modular engine while in the car is no easy task. its not uncommon to see 30 rwhp from a cams swap, but i'd say a solid 20 rwhp can be expected. it all depends on how agressive the profile is you go with. it nice to have long tube headers as a compliment to cams, withe the added amount of intake charge the engine will draw in now it helps to have headers to get rid of the exhaust gas more efficiently

 

[TBapp3]

Awesome Thanks for the help on the subject!

 

[DARKHORSE02]

I did comp 270's and love them. Doing tune on Friday. I did springs they where required according to comp. However I would have done them anyway. I don't trust factory springs on a high lift cam .

 

[ShelbyGT]

I did comp 270's and love them. Doing tune on Friday. I did springs they where required according to comp. However I would have done them anyway. I don't trust factory springs on a high lift cam .

thats cool, i hear ya. but i reality the modular valve train is very stout. its not like the old pushrod days were stock springs float at 6000. everyone should pick up the book how to build max performance 4.6 liter engines and read the valvetrain section. the whole book has a ton of great info!

 

[TBapp3]

^Might be something I need to look into!

 

[Race_Red_5Oh]

Gonna need to save up a bit but I'm gonna do alot ..power wise.. Gonna put 3.73 gears with the sct powerflash tuner. Then the patriot valve spring kit to upgrade the stock springs in the car now. Then the stage 2 comp cams with the new comp cam gears. I think I'll have real speed automotive put all this shit in... That's what I'm thinking...

 

[TBapp3]

Have you gotten any sort of quote for the install!?!?! I have been thinking about going this route also but feel If Id be spending the same amount of money Id rather have boost

 

[Race_Red_5Oh]

No I will prob call tomoro to see what they want to do it I'll post it up when I no