Best Radar Detector?

Chuckie B

Chuckie B

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Going be ordering a radar detector so when i get my KB installed i feel a little more secure...not saying i'm going 2 change my ways and start driving like a complete idiot and hope a radar detector saves me. But just wanted opinions... I'm not looking to spend $1,200 on an indash but i'm willing to pay for quality. Was looking into the Valentine knowing it used to be the best on the market but ppl are saying it has changed?..open to opinons and what you guys think.
Thanks.
 
Chuckie B

Chuckie B

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Yah i'm about 2 order a radar detector be-4 tusday so i really got 2 decide on what i want. Still leaning towards the V1 bc id want to spend more then $400 but idk? this is a tough decision.
 
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white00gt

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a little late on my response but most police departments have gone to lazer so most radar detectors are kinda ineffective because by the time it picks up a lazer hit it's too late
 
Jim W

Jim W

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white00gt said:
a little late on my response but most police departments have gone to lazer so most radar detectors are kinda ineffective because by the time it picks up a lazer hit it's too late
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From reading the V1 site, it would appear the better detectors can sense the laser when it hit cars ahead of you, but who knows.

I've been debating on the V1 for the directional notification mostly, but can't seem to justify it with myself when I may be able to get close to the same performance for 1/2 the cost.

I have come to learn that 80% of not getting caught speeding is using your brain anyway. Don't drive like a total jackass and be aware of your surroundings.
 
Chuckie B

Chuckie B

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haha yahh thats very true...my V1 should be here 2-marrow so we'll see how it goes.. had the car out for over 2 summers now and have only had my balls busted about exhaust and tint in the same pull over. so i must be using my brain sometime:oldman:
 
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desmodronic

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oh im a bit late on this too but i just been to a shop and picked up the pamphlet on escort passport 9500,,,,this is pricey but so is a ticket or nine......apparently this one will shift the laser signal if it hits your car, cop gets error message. spoke to a cop as well, he said errors are pretty common, so they wont even suspect that you are messing with their signal.this will also work with the rear facing detectors they are using now.anyone have this system fitted and let us all know if it works, actually, thinking about that theres only one way to test it i guess.

anyone wanna volunteer to blat past a cop at a buck 20 and see what happens next......lol.
 
Gingerbreadman

Gingerbreadman

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detectors are nice but its almost a garanteed ticket if the cop sees it,the best thing ive found to do is find out when shift change is at the stations that live around u,will give u about a 20 minute window to do whatever you need,just make sure ur goin fast enough that people dont see your plate,,all they need is 3 numbers and a witness thats a tattletail,7-3,,3-11,,,11-7,are most stations
 
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desmodronic

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well they cant give you a ticket for the detector in ny.....yet......certain states will though.....i think arizona is one.

if they see you going fast then yes they may well stop you, but if i am using a detector and the detector detects them.....well that would be my cue to back off the gas. a cop using a laser/radar gun would be relying on that to be honest, by the time the error message has gone off, and hes shaken it and banged it a few times, it shouldent even occur to him and by then youll be sailing by at speed limits.its the civic behind you trying to catch up that will get caught....lol.

i wouldent trust the shift change thing at all............we all know cops create their own over time by doing a bust for anything 2 seconds before their shift ends......stopping a speeder and then treating you like your carrying contraband is a simple and effective way to make that happen........even if they let you go after 2 hours with just the speeding ticket ,,,,they still have a few more bucs in the next pay packet.

and any way..at the end of the day.......common sense should always prevail......its like a game...........the way i look at it.....the last ticket i got for speeding counted for all the times they didnt catch me.....lol.
 
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Gingerbreadman

Gingerbreadman

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u will get burned every once and a while anyway,just a techniqe i use that has been good to me,,and i do alot of burnouts and speeding,also for the highway a cb is the best ive found,thell tell you down to the mile marker if u ask the right way
 
Kylejb2663

Kylejb2663

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Radar detectors these days don't help much....

Police are now able to visually determine your speed and it holds up in court so they do not even need their radar gun on and can just sit there.

Also, most departments (including NYSP I believe) are using lidar which is instant on technology.
"(LIDAR, commonly referred to as LASER) instead of radio waves. Radar detectors have been upgraded by detecting the infrared light emitted by LIDAR. LIDAR detection is not nearly as reliable as the detection of radar, since the light is much more focused and often aimed below the windshield level, where the detector is usually mounted. The other problem with LIDAR is that your highway patrol officer may have one of those instant-on LIDAR guns. He's completely passive until he sees you are speeding, quickly points his laser gun at you, your detector goes off, at the same time the police officer will have the speed reading (and proof), meanwhile you are hitting the brakes. "
 
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desmodronic

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the passport installation is pricey as it wires your whole car in order to shift the laser beam and gives the cop an error message.......of course there is really only one way to test that..........and i would also assume that the manufacturers of the cops devises are forever looking for ways to beat the detector.

not related but sort of related.....
when i lived in the uk i worked in the traffic control industry( traffic lights etc).......i worked very closely with the traffic cops and one way to beat the red light cameras( running red lights not something i made a habit of for obvious reasons) or speed cameras( something that was a tad habitual) was to go to court and request a calibration certificate for the camera.........back then they could be out of cal which would make a judge automatically assume that there could be benefit of doubt.i never tested this theory but i knew a few who did.

been a while sinse i was in that industry so that may or may not work here.plus technology has progressed.

btw.......the uk cameras that they use for traffic monitoring can also be used for speeding.

heres how it worked......

camera sees you speeding

threshold one is set to give you a warning on a vms( those orange things you see on trailers at road works) sign positioned further up the road, via licence plate recognition system.this tells you to slow down complete with your plate number .....scarey.....

threshold two is set higher and sign tells you ticket is in the post,

now heres the bit ive been pondering......licence plates in uk are white at front yellow at rear.plate recognition systems were developed using those colour schemes.nys has changed the plates to that ghastly orangey yellow colour......hmmmm wonder why?

letters and numbers are a set size....this also assisted the recognition systems....cops had instructions to give tickets for plates where numbers were smaller than these limits......quite amusing getting stopped on my bike and out they come with the little ruler to start measuring the letters..lol.

any camera.......speed , red light, community monitoring...etc etc ...can be tied into the system with the software and a tweak or two.

there are 4 million plus cameras on the streets of the uk........
 
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desmodronic

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actually...........how is a cop able to viually determine your speed without watching you for at least a quarter of a mile?superman eyes???? thats how they did it pre radar dets.......only way that would work would be if you were really gunning it.

then its down to your word against theres......i guess the judge would side with the cop........but that really is open to corruption .......lets face it.........you piss off a cop who lives near you for playing van halen to loud one night.......he gets your plate........and makes a bogus report.......ooooooo
 
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mach1

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desmodronic said:
actually...........how is a cop able to viually determine your speed without watching you for at least a quarter of a mile?superman eyes???? thats how they did it pre radar dets.......only way that would work would be if you were really gunning it.

then its down to your word against theres......i guess the judge would side with the cop........but that really is open to corruption .......lets face it.........you piss off a cop who lives near you for playing van halen to loud one night.......he gets your plate........and makes a bogus report.......ooooooo
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it's very simple. they pick a stationary object, when you blast by that stationary object, they can count till you hit the next stationary object. With a trained eye, it is not as hard as it sounds. Are they going to pinpoint you like a radar gun? of course not, but they will be in the ballpark.
btw, studies have shown that people that use radar detectors (myself included) tend to be more aware of their environment. You are always waiting for the thing to go off. I have an Escort unit. Use it all the time whether I'm in the minivan or mach1.
A bit of advice, when you get pulled over. Shut the car off and keep both hands on the steering wheel. Be polite. Whatever you do, don't ask the officer what you did wrong. Let him ask the questions. This is advice from my police friends.
Remember they are Law Enforcement not your drinking buddy.
 
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