NEED HELP, 2000 MUSTANG with 302 swap

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m5mel

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Hi everyone,,, new members here.. My son and I picked up a almost finished project a 2000 Mustang original a V-6 now with a swapped 302 from a fox body. We are almost near completion but unsure on the starter wires. We have a starter with built on solenoid. There is no fender solenoid mount on the 99-04 Mustangs unlike the Foxbodys. My question is do I need to adda fender style Solendoid even though the starter already has one? Or do I need to add a trigger line to the pin on the starter wired to where? The fuse box has a starter relay I'm assuming you just need to attach the line to the + bolt on the fuse box?

Mel
 
4eyedcoupe

4eyedcoupe

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m5mel said:
Hi everyone,,, new members here.. My son and I picked up a almost finished project a 2000 Mustang original a V-6 now with a swapped 302 from a fox body. We are almost near completion but unsure on the starter wires. We have a starter with built on solenoid. There is no fender solenoid mount on the 99-04 Mustangs unlike the Foxbodys. My question is do I need to adda fender style Solendoid even though the starter already has one? Or do I need to add a trigger line to the pin on the starter wired to where? The fuse box has a starter relay I'm assuming you just need to attach the line to the + bolt on the fuse box?

Mel
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Yes, you need to wire in the solenoid. Is this a track car?
 
4eyedcoupe

4eyedcoupe

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Yes. There are diagrams out there if you do a quick Google search, but it should be pretty straight forward.

Figured it would be a track car, unless you had wiring and ECU from 96+ truck or explorer it would never pass inspection. GOOD LUCK!
 
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m5mel

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4eyedcoupe said:
Yes. There are diagrams out there if you do a quick Google search, but it should be pretty straight forward.

Figured it would be a track car, unless you had wiring and ECU from 96+ truck or explorer it would never pass inspection. GOOD LUCK!
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not sure I understand on the inspection part though?
 
4eyedcoupe

4eyedcoupe

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302 from a Foxbody is not OBDII...You need OBDII wiring and ECU in order for the inspection station to plug your into your car. They HAVE to plug in any car 96 or newer for emissions and it can not throw any emission codes. The 96 trucks and 96+ explorers are the only 302 vehicles with OBDII ECU harness. But if this a track car, and you have no plans of registering it, then you don't have to worry about it.
 
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m5mel

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4eyedcoupe said:
302 from a Foxbody is not OBDII...You need OBDII wiring and ECU in order for the inspection station to plug your into your car. They HAVE to plug in any car 96 or newer for emissions and it can not throw any emission codes. The 96 trucks and 96+ explorers are the only 302 vehicles with OBDII ECU harness. But if this a track car, and you have no plans of registering it, then you don't have to worry about it.
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there are ways to get that solved :)
 
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NYstang

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No there arent.... NY wont pass any OBDII car unless it can communicate with the computer. Unless you are registering it in other states.
 
4eyedcoupe

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m5mel said:
by the way this motor is carved, camed and vicious :)
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So maybe you should find a fox to put it in. Hate for you to go through all of that work for an undrivable car when done and be severly disapointed. You wouldn't be able to sell the finished product...Not easily anyway.
 
4eyedcoupe

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m5mel said:
there are ways to get that solved :)
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No...there really isn't. It does not matter who you know...There is not one shop or person in the entire state that would be able to pass that car in inspection unless you run the OBDII harnesses from above mentioned vehicles. And if the motor is decently modified, it def won't pass because it would most likely cause the ECU to throw codes.
 
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m5mel

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4eyedcoupe said:
No...there really isn't. It does not matter who you know...There is not one shop or person in the entire state that would be able to pass that car in inspection unless you run the OBDII harnesses from above mentioned vehicles. And if the motor is decently modified, it def won't pass because it would most likely cause the ECU to throw codes.
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well that strange cause I've seen many other projects like this that are on the road,,, maybe not NY though
 
Monroe50

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I do not know if it is the same for passenger vehicles as it is for big rigs, but I do know that as far as emissions are concerned, it is the year of the engine and not the year of the actual vehicle. Many trucking companies in NY are ordering complete trucks without engines and installing older model engines that do not have such tight emissions regulations. Like I said, I'm not sure if trucks are different in this aspect than passenger vehicles, but maybe something to look into. See if it is the year of the vehicle or year of the engine that NYS requires to be pre 1996.
 
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m5mel

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Monroe50 said:
I do not know if it is the same for passenger vehicles as it is for big rigs, but I do know that as far as emissions are concerned, it is the year of the engine and not the year of the actual vehicle. Many trucking companies in NY are ordering complete trucks without engines and installing older model engines that do not have such tight emissions regulations. Like I said, I'm not sure if trucks are different in this aspect than passenger vehicles, but maybe something to look into. See if it is the year of the vehicle or year of the engine that NYS requires to be pre 1996.
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VERY Interesting will definitely look into this one
 
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