I was hanging out with some friends the other night an one of my buddies was getting on my friend about rev matching, he said it is horrible for the clutch an tranny if you rev match..... I can see that being true, as i dont much anyway, after doing some quick research i decided to come to you guys, i cant find a clear decision and i personally i dont trust the internet id rather hear it from someone i know is educated... Its time for me to be schooled haha:nono: Im mostly talking about just down shifting from like 3-2 for me at least.... but please give me all the info you feel like passing along... if its not bad im going to do this all the time haha
thoughts on rev matching
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rev matching on down shifts--- the engine revs must go UP when down-shifting to match the speed of the car to the lower gear.which is said to be smoother, allowing you to get out of a corner and onto the throttle more efficiently and quickly. The faster and more balanced you are on the corner, the faster youll be on the straight...exponentially... true or not true???
nobody wants to weigh in on this not sure if its a stupid thought... but i have a 04 as you know i take care of her like a baby... im reading from people that have 12s an crazy newer beasts an they swear that it puts less stress on the clutch because of the smoother shift... but nobody really gives a answer, I appreciate hearing from you kev as always!
and some mustang people are saying that they never heard of not rev matching to down shift... this being said i dont know if im just way off an its a stupid question.... or if im way off an i should always be rev matching... look it up youll see
nobody wants to weigh in on this not sure if its a stupid thought... but i have a 04 as you know i take care of her like a baby... im reading from people that have 12s an crazy newer beasts an they swear that it puts less stress on the clutch because of the smoother shift... but nobody really gives a answer, I appreciate hearing from you kev as always!
and some mustang people are saying that they never heard of not rev matching to down shift... this being said i dont know if im just way off an its a stupid question.... or if im way off an i should always be rev matching... look it up youll see
It's called heel and toe down shifting. I did it all the time in my 1995 Ranger and I plan on doing it when I am done with my Mach1. [MENTION=7350]myslow04gt[/MENTION] is right when he says that the engine RPMs must go UP when downshifting. It can be done anytime you downshift (6-5, 5-4, 4-3, 3-2 and 2-1.)
Could you do a 6-4, maybe but would have to take your time and be hard on the brakes to do it.
Could you do a 6-4, maybe but would have to take your time and be hard on the brakes to do it.
It's called heel and toe down shifting. I did it all the time in my 1995 Ranger and I plan on doing it when I am done with my Mach1. [MENTION=7350]myslow04gt[/MENTION] is right when he says that the engine RPMs must go UP when downshifting. It can be done anytime you downshift (6-5, 5-4, 4-3, 3-2 and 2-1.)
Could you do a 6-4, maybe but would have to take your time and be hard on the brakes to do it.
Could you do a 6-4, maybe but would have to take your time and be hard on the brakes to do it.
good to hear someone elses thoughts [MENTION=4249]MikeRadMan[/MENTION] i would never double down shift id be so scared i was kind of nervous to try this as it was not knowing if it was ok or not, me and my buddies are having a big dispute about this, im glad im getting some feedback, and learning more an more
I was told by word of mouth that it is what you're supposed to do. I have a '14 and that's how I downshift. I don't have a ton of experience with longevity yet. If I remember correctly, mine takes about a 1k spike to downshift 1 gear.
As for the double down, I guess it's possible, I just do the single downshift twice. Again, I don't know the wear and tear on the parts yet since I'm still new to manuals in the last two years.
I'm curious to a more concrete answer as well... Wanna make the racecar last!
As for the double down, I guess it's possible, I just do the single downshift twice. Again, I don't know the wear and tear on the parts yet since I'm still new to manuals in the last two years.
I'm curious to a more concrete answer as well... Wanna make the racecar last!
??? Are we all talking about the same thing ?
Down shifting / upshifying WITHOUT using the clutch ??
Maybe I'm a scaredy cat, but how do you do that when your racing ?
One mistake, and I would think you could break a few gears when your high in the rpms.
I also don't race corners, but I would think you downshift right before the corner and not at the corner.
Wow, my brain hurts right now.
Down shifting / upshifying WITHOUT using the clutch ??
Maybe I'm a scaredy cat, but how do you do that when your racing ?
One mistake, and I would think you could break a few gears when your high in the rpms.
I also don't race corners, but I would think you downshift right before the corner and not at the corner.
Wow, my brain hurts right now.
??? Are we all talking about the same thing ?
Down shifting / upshifying WITHOUT using the clutch ??
Maybe I'm a scaredy cat, but how do you do that when your racing ?
One mistake, and I would think you could break a few gears when your high in the rpms.
I also don't race corners, but I would think you downshift right before the corner and not at the corner.
Wow, my brain hurts right now.
Down shifting / upshifying WITHOUT using the clutch ??
Maybe I'm a scaredy cat, but how do you do that when your racing ?
One mistake, and I would think you could break a few gears when your high in the rpms.
I also don't race corners, but I would think you downshift right before the corner and not at the corner.
Wow, my brain hurts right now.
MikeRadMan is correct in saying it is heel toe shifting. It is also called blipping. The right foot covers the gas and brake, while the left covers the clutch as normal. When you go to downshift from 3 to 2 (or whatever) you would brake and tap the gas (blip) to boost the rpm's enough to have a smooth shift. This takes a lot of practice and just a little talent to do it smooth every time.
shifting without hitting the clutch is not something we should be doing. Not good for the transmission or the clutch. Professional drivers (NASCAR) can do it because they have specially designed trannies that have specific rev points for up or down shifting. The drivers have a lot more experience and money to have those kind of toys.
shifting without hitting the clutch is not something we should be doing. Not good for the transmission or the clutch. Professional drivers (NASCAR) can do it because they have specially designed trannies that have specific rev points for up or down shifting. The drivers have a lot more experience and money to have those kind of toys.
